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19 minutes ago, theblowtorch said:

There are enough votes on the MB board of control to cancel the KMEA season. 

This is the problem with the Board. They vote for themselves and not the state as a whole, as we saw just last year. 

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4 hours ago, AMAC said:

 

50% ticket money will be made...where? People who are going to show up are going to show up regardless of the format. You act like the western part of the state hasn't been doing one and dones successfully for decades. 

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Bourbon County announcing is a big domino. Covid is causing more problems for programs than just logistics. A lot of programs are dealing with huge budgetary issues that are contributing to these decisions. A lot of schools missed out on their usual fundraising activities due to quarantine. 

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38 minutes ago, Ben Dover said:

This is the problem with the Board. They vote for themselves and not the state as a whole, as we saw just last year. 

Relax. 

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53 minutes ago, Brass33 said:

Relax. 

Says the person screaming the end is near with every post today. 😂

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1 hour ago, Brass33 said:

Bourbon County announcing is a big domino. Covid is causing more problems for programs than just logistics. A lot of programs are dealing with huge budgetary issues that are contributing to these decisions. A lot of schools missed out on their usual fundraising activities due to quarantine. 

It’s one of only 2 (possibly 3) programs so far. I wouldn’t call that a domino. Most are still a go. 

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2 hours ago, theblowtorch said:

There are enough votes on the MB board of control to cancel the KMEA season. 

My MBC rep hasn’t sent out any info concerning the other marching band directors and us wanting him to vote to cancel. I have not seen any survey from Dr. Stroube concerning canceling. 

I do feel that whatever KHSAA decides by Friday will give us some guidance. 

2 hours ago, WGIFAN said:

Bourbon Co has just announced on FB they will be going non competitive this season 

Each band has to do what they feel is best. This is NOT a domino. 

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Colorado has cancelled their marching band events for 2020. 

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26 minutes ago, therightstuff said:

It’s one of only 2 (possibly 3) programs so far. I wouldn’t call that a domino. Most are still a go. 

Bourbon, Mayfield, Owensboro, and Eastern are all not competing this year. I would expect to possibly see more. Bourbon not competing, per their Facebook post, looks like the ultimate decision was made by the district administration.

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1 hour ago, bdit said:

My MBC rep hasn’t sent out any info concerning the other marching band directors and us wanting him to vote to cancel. I have not seen any survey from Dr. Stroube concerning canceling. 

I do feel that whatever KHSAA decides by Friday will give us some guidance. 

Each band has to do what they feel is best. This is NOT a domino. 

Great post. Well said.

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1 hour ago, Chase said:

Bourbon, Mayfield, Owensboro, and Eastern are all not competing this year. I would expect to possibly see more. Bourbon not competing, per their Facebook post, looks like the ultimate decision was made by the district administration.

Still an extremely small group. What you expect and what is reality are not the same.

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2 hours ago, Ben Dover said:

Says the person screaming the end is near with every post today. 😂

I’m calm. I’m just relaying what I’ve heard from people associated with multiple programs going through this decision process. Felt like it was relevant so I shared. Trying to give perspective on what programs are going through.

I was just telling you to relax about the board. I’ll give them the benefit of the doubt with whatever they decide to do. It’s a tough decision and they will know about the situation more than any of us.

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Domino might’ve not been the best term to associate with Bourbon County’s decision. What I was trying to say was there are a lot of programs that are in Bourbon’s shoes and they are one of the first to come to a decision. The fate of some programs will ultimately come down to district administrations. 

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Florida has cancelled their state marching band championships.

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1 hour ago, Brass33 said:

I was just telling you to relax about the board. I’ll give them the benefit of the doubt with whatever they decide to do. It’s a tough decision and they will know about the situation more than any of us.

I understand that, I was just stating that some of the district heads voted against what the majority of their district wants/says on certain issues.

22 minutes ago, theblowtorch said:

Florida has cancelled their state marching band championships.

Who could have seen that coming? Lol.

1 hour ago, Brass33 said:

Domino might’ve not been the best term to associate with Bourbon County’s decision. What I was trying to say was there are a lot of programs that are in Bourbon’s shoes and they are one of the first to come to a decision. The fate of some programs will ultimately come down to district administrations. 

There were more decisions going into Bourbon cancelling their season. I'm sure more on this issue will come to light at a later date, but I don't feel at privilege to say publicly at this time.

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IMO school in general should be cancelled, meaning marching band competitive and non-competitive as well, but we just need to wait and see what happens in the voting. Speculation that’s just a projection of our own feelings on the matter doesn’t do any good other than stroke some egos when someone’s prediction is inevitably right.

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8 minutes ago, trombobble said:

IMO school in general should be cancelled, meaning marching band competitive and non-competitive as well, but we just need to wait and see what happens in the voting. Speculation that’s just a projection of our own feelings on the matter doesn’t do any good other than stroke some egos when someone’s prediction is inevitably right.

Cancelling school in general isn’t going to happen. There will be some form of school in the fall whether it’s in person, online, NTI, or some hybrid combination. 

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It would be completely irresponsible to have a season. I say that in regards to UIL as well - ESPECIALLY UIL, actually. Look at the case trend in Texas...

The cases are trending upwards nationally, and here in Kentucky it is spiking up and down, with some days being drastically higher than other days (as opposed to Texas, which is just a lovely skyrocket upwards).

If there is a season, it's almost a certainty that at least one of the bands would have someone come in and spread it through the group. Is marching band really worth that risk? Even with wearing masks - camps and rehearsals have students in such close contact, constantly blowing air and spreading loads of lovely germs. It's not the most sanitary activity, even in the best of cases. If one person in the group gets it, it will spread to all of them. This isn't spreading doom and gloom, it's speaking to the reality that is COVID-19 right now in 2020. Times are not normal, and we cannot move on as if they are. If schools are able to get back in session, it will be very good to just have concert band right now - and even that is up in the air. You don't just have the students though, you have staff and everyone else who comes in with each group. It is a recipe for an absolute disaster. As a society we all need to be taking more steps to help stop this from spreading, this does the exact opposite. I would say just push forward optimistically for a concert season to build strong musicians for a wonderful 2021 season.

We all love marching band. We all want a season to go on. But it is not worth the risk. We have no idea what 2021 will look like if there is a season taken off like this, or if there would be a season in 2021 either, but it's absolutely not worth the risk of harming children. We need to get our priorities in order... KHSAA is a totally different beast. Those games are two schools, and fewer players than marching members. Less on the field, and if you limit it to parents only - less in the stands. I'd argue they shouldn't be doing this either, though. If we stop the spread, then we can have a nice 2021 season. If we continue making decisions like this - looking at you UIL - then 2021 becomes a question mark as well.



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Does this look like it's the best time to be talking about putting a bunch of kids together?

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30 minutes ago, theblowtorch said:

Cancelling school in general isn’t going to happen. There will be some form of school in the fall whether it’s in person, online, NTI, or some hybrid combination. 

Sorry, I should’ve picked better words. Absolutely should have some version of school. I meant in person should be cancelled.

 

6 minutes ago, Unknown said:

We all love marching band. We all want a season to go on. But it is not worth the risk. We have no idea what 2021 will look like if there is a season taken off like this, or if there would be a season in 2021 either, but it's absolutely not worth the risk of harming children. We need to get our priorities in order... KHSAA is a totally different beast. Those games are two schools, and fewer players than marching members. Less on the field, and if you limit it to parents only - less in the stands. I'd argue they shouldn't be doing this either, though. If we stop the spread, then we can have a nice 2021 season. If we continue making decisions like this - looking at you UIL - then 2021 becomes a question mark as well.



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Does this look like it's the best time to be talking about putting a bunch of kids together?

Not sure why there’s a confused reaction to this post. Anyone saying it’s safe to have a season right now is in denial of the facts. You may believe that the reward outweighs the risk, but you can’t pretend this is safe. Kids are going to get hurt or worse from this.

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7 hours ago, Unknown said:

It would be completely irresponsible to have a season. I say that in regards to UIL as well - ESPECIALLY UIL, actually. Look at the case trend in Texas...

The cases are trending upwards nationally, and here in Kentucky it is spiking up and down, with some days being drastically higher than other days (as opposed to Texas, which is just a lovely skyrocket upwards).

If there is a season, it's almost a certainty that at least one of the bands would have someone come in and spread it through the group. Is marching band really worth that risk? Even with wearing masks - camps and rehearsals have students in such close contact, constantly blowing air and spreading loads of lovely germs. It's not the most sanitary activity, even in the best of cases. If one person in the group gets it, it will spread to all of them. This isn't spreading doom and gloom, it's speaking to the reality that is COVID-19 right now in 2020. Times are not normal, and we cannot move on as if they are. If schools are able to get back in session, it will be very good to just have concert band right now - and even that is up in the air. You don't just have the students though, you have staff and everyone else who comes in with each group. It is a recipe for an absolute disaster. As a society we all need to be taking more steps to help stop this from spreading, this does the exact opposite. I would say just push forward optimistically for a concert season to build strong musicians for a wonderful 2021 season.

We all love marching band. We all want a season to go on. But it is not worth the risk. We have no idea what 2021 will look like if there is a season taken off like this, or if there would be a season in 2021 either, but it's absolutely not worth the risk of harming children. We need to get our priorities in order... KHSAA is a totally different beast. Those games are two schools, and fewer players than marching members. Less on the field, and if you limit it to parents only - less in the stands. I'd argue they shouldn't be doing this either, though. If we stop the spread, then we can have a nice 2021 season. If we continue making decisions like this - looking at you UIL - then 2021 becomes a question mark as well.



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Does this look like it's the best time to be talking about putting a bunch of kids together?

We are going to be fine. This is definitely the time to bring kids together safely. Living fearfully won’t help the situation. It’s a very low risk for young students. 

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I see and understand both sides of the argument bc I struggle with what side to come down on at this point. My practical side says obviously we are still treading in dangerous waters with virus. I am in favor of masks, social distancing, being cautious of being out in public unless necessary, protecting those around me by doing my part etc. The selfish side of me however is at this phase: I'm tired of doing my part, following all the rules and guidelines,  telling myself and my family we must stay in until , well I dont really know until when, while it seems the majority of states and people aren't doing their part and causing the spikes which just co tinues to punish those of us who are doing everything that has been asked.  So where does that leave me? I dont really know honestly but I would like now the opportunity to be allowed to start living my life again openly, following the guidelines. Allowing the season to happen will have risks but at this point I want the choice. If you're not comfortable with your child participating in the season then simply dont let them. If we are allowed a season then follow whatever rules and guidelines we are given. Like I said practical me and selfish me see both sides and as a fairly responsible adult I beleive i can merge the 2 and find a happy medium.

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10 hours ago, theblowtorch said:

Florida has cancelled their state marching band championships.

They are doing 4 regionals instead on that day in November so that bands don’t have to travel as far and stay the night. 

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44 minutes ago, WGIFAN said:

They are doing 4 regionals instead on that day in November so that bands don’t have to travel as far and stay the night. 

I could def see this working, in terms of spreading out semis and finals to larger HS stadiums (could still keep 5A at UK-even though, like pre-2005, that is by far the smallest total band class......don’t get me started. We take 6 bands in finals yet there are only 11 or so in the entire class. Whatever makes u feel good, I guess. Here’s your plaque.) Makes perfect sense.......

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4 hours ago, therightstuff said:

We are going to be fine. This is definitely the time to bring kids together safely. Living fearfully won’t help the situation. It’s a very low risk for young students. 

Radical individualism and the American obsession with appearing strong and on top of it no matter what is going to kill us. Self isolating with digital learning isn’t living fearfully, it’s doing what every other country in the world did to lower numbers successfully. We ended quarantine far too early and we’re paying the price. 

 

Also, while younger people are less at risk, they can still spread it to all of their family. Opening schools back up and allowing marching band is essentially interconnecting every single household in an area’s diagnosis. If one person has it, they’re going to spread it to everyone else. That’s why it’s not safe.

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you see the thing is why should kentucky do what the other states are doing, when our cases aren't near as bad as theirs. like yes we have an increase but we need to look at our state and then decide not make the decision off what school across the country are doing.

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