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  4. Ben Dover

    Grand Nationals

    I'm sorry to bring this back up, but what school did you go to that you sign up for football or any sport and automatically get on the team? Every school I've been associated with has had tryouts for football and kids get cut, which is why I'm a big advocate for inclusivity in marching band. Japan has marching bands for elementary school students, so why is having 7th graders in marching band in Kentucky such a big deal?
  5. JuliusKorngold

    Box 5 media

    Somehow this has become a Tresona topic, but you know... I wonder how many of the Boomers and Boomer-wanna-be's that complain about Tresona are also MAGA hat-wearing "capitalism is beautiful/profit justifies ethics" bros? Also, let me just go ahead and apologize about that super-long sentence.
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  7. Chase

    Box 5 media

    It really did, the lawyers that got Tresona started were looking for a good way to make money and saw that the regulations and monitoring for musical arrangements was very lax, so they decided to stick their noses in it.
  8. J. Stamos

    Box 5 media

    Thanks for the info! I assumed it all pretty much came down to money, but useful information nonetheless.
  9. Mike Honcho

    Box 5 media

    Here is how I understand it - The company Tresona was created by a few lawyers to help music publishers gather payments from groups using music that they hold the copyrights to. They routinely have a team of workers that scour the internet (Facebook , YouTube, Vimeo, etc.) looking for videos of performances (marching bands, show choirs, indoor drum lines - all groups that would potentially be performing arrangements of previously published pieces of music). When they find videos, they check with the publishers to see if permission to arrange was granted to the group. If permission was not granted, Tresona's lawyers send nasty letters to the administration (head principal and head superintendent) and have even filed lawsuits against groups for copyright infringement. One of their first such suits was against the Burbank (Cal) high school show choir program that the tv series Glee was based on. Check here for an article. To use your words, Tresona has a "stranglehold" on the process as they have shown the music publishers that they (Tresona) will do all the legwork and chase down potential copyright violators and therefore can bring revenue to the publishers. Tresona then took their "knowledge" of marching band and such and created a "service" where groups can go through them to secure permission to arrange pieces of music. The kicker (of course) is that Tresona kindly adds an additional fee (usually a couple hundred dollars) on top of whatever amount the music publisher wants to give permission. You ask "why not go about things a different way"? The "different way" would involve directors contacting the music publishing companies directly to chase down permission to arrange directly from them. Sadly, many publishers are starting to direct all such inquiries to Tresona directly.
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  11. J. Stamos

    Box 5 media

    I'm not familiar with this at all. Does someone want to explain if this is true, and if so, why? If they have such a stranglehold on bands, why not go about things a different way? I'm sure that's easier than it sounds though.
  12. The Boxer

    Box 5 media

    Received my download over the weekend and was very pleased. Although I am sure it would be more expensive I would love to see a multi camera or full time overhead camera option! Other than that great work on all accounts!
  13. yahkyda1

    Box 5 media

    Got my download a couple of days ago. Very good product; worth every penny. Keep up the good work!
  14. yahkyda1

    State finals digital download

    Really good quality
  15. theblowtorch

    State finals digital download

    I’ve haven’t received anything yet.
  16. OldLowBrassGuy

    State finals digital download

    I got my notification from Box 5 on Sunday morning that the download was available. I was able to download everything without any issues and the quality is really good. I'm happy.
  17. DonSergio

    Finals performance times!

    You're a little late for that, buddy
  18. Toni

    Grand Nationals

    Agree my grandson went in marching band last yr as a middle shcool kid and this yr to .I thought the first few days would get to him ,and he drop out.he's done good in school but I think him being in mar ching band has made him better student ,he's his grades r better a and b and honor row student .and his first poeple told me that they thought he bring the ba d down and he stuck out like a sore thumb. But then they said half way threw ,they said they couldn't pick him out from the others.i go to every practice and every competitions and the focus and time he put into .has made him a much better person.
  19. Hi buddy..........what I feel is about where they finished at GN (in the 20's). Fishers was 7th at ISSMA, and 13th at GN, with NH 21. So I feel I was about spot on. Regards
  20. sisawo

    Finals performance times!

    Hi buddy, can you brief a bit. Did not get you exactly! Regards, S. Smith
  21. sisawo

    That's pretty cool...

    Ah, this looks cool and quite interesting. Hopefully this will go well to represent Kentucky. Regards, S.Smith
  22. sedersmith

    State finals digital download

    Hi buddy, yes I did it took me 10days to arrive and come to the quality. Definitely worth the cost! Regards, Seder Smith https://plex.software/ https://tutuappx.com/ Vidmate
  23. sedersmith

    2019 Indiana State Finals 11/9/19

    Hi buddy, what I feel is maybe the top 5. Let's see, improved a lot. Regards, Seder Smith https://dltutuapp.com/tutuapp-download/ https://showbox.run/ https://kodi.software/
  24. Chase

    KY Marching Discord

    I am in the process of planning some off season events for the server. We also have a group of people that are being active on the Fantasy Marching Arts website if you would like to join us. This invite link should still be good https://discord.gg/EH9XUb7
  25. Chase

    Box 5 media

    I'm just going to say, make sure you got your facts, all the facts, before going after someone. Too many on here, myself included, have been on the receiving end of unwarranted ridicule and toxicity from people who either don't care because it is outside the box of what they want or they just don't have all the facts and get information from hearsay or so called "rumor and innuendo" as a podcast I listen to calls it. I guess it has just become part of today's culture for people to form opinions without all the facts or be closed minded when it comes to ideas or concepts that are not what they would want if they were in control of all aspects of the situation. I just ask that people educate themselves and get all the information from the source, not secondhand, before going after someone. On another note, I have known Tim Snyder for a few years now and have done work for him on sales, cameras, and even some editing. I'm not perfect when it comes to any of that, but even still, the end product that comes out is of the highest quality regardless of what anyone says and has been since they took over filming KMEA SMBC. Also, I have had the pleasure of learning from Tim in drum corps as well and will say that I will 100% trust his feedback on anything that can help improve ensembles I am teaching or performing in. It's worked with every group I have ever personally been involved with. Regardless of how you might feel about him, Tim is one of the best music educators in the country.
  26. Cantina_Bill

    Grand Nationals

    ^ I realize a few things are confusing but I think a point can be drawn together.
  27. Cantina_Bill

    Grand Nationals

    No because there is no “easy” football. In band you have to be in concert band to be in marching band. Nearly everywhere is marching band simply an option compared to being forced. Note that not every program follows that specification but we’re not going to talk about that. Going into marching band is wanting to expand on your band experience, not just being there because you want to, but rather you want more from playing your instrument. My point to why simply choosing to be in marching band is a mature decision for a middle schooler. When you choose to do marching band you choose to get better. In football and nearly all sports you simply sign up just to play, in band you can play without having to march which in sports terms, is the equivalent of just signing up for football. Signing up for marching band is the equivalent of trying out for varsity because you know you want to get better at your craft.
  28. Molly_BandFan1992

    Box 5 media

    Hi Tim, first just wanted to say sorry you and your family had to deal with jackwagons over a video. And if you happen to decide to make a dvd of this years finals please let me know I’d buy one. Call me old fashioned but I don’t do drives. I’ve bought one since 2014 and have been happy with the product. Hate that I won’t have this years, anyways happy Thanksgiving to you and yours.
  29. Tim

    Box 5 media

    No, that's not why some people give arbitrary 5-star ratings on there. It's typically to counterbalance the "reviewers" who give the product 1 star for the dumbest reasons. "This doesn't even work on my Apple computer!" Well, no, because it specifically states in the product description that it's for PC. Many critical reviews can be chalked up to either customer failure to do proper research or nitpicking over mostly or completely irrelevant things. That's why you can't always go with average customer review on there. Never did I think I would be agreeing with -- much less defending -- Tim Snyder, but I guess there's a first time for everything. I get the frustration felt by a lot of people toward Box5, and it seems like a large amount of it involves customer service. The fact of the matter is that most of the complaints Mr. Snyder receives, on here and through phone and email, are things that he has already addressed in this thread. I get that a lot of people are going to be upset unless they get a DVD they can pop into their player or computer, but those same people are either completely ignoring or failing to do the research to discover the reason why they don't offer it. (By the way, Mr. Snyder, maybe that question and answer could be put into a FAQ on your site to help people understand what you discussed here?) There's also the fact that there is a lot of misplaced anger and blame being leveled at Box5. As Mr. Snyder has explained, the real villain behind the pricing is Tresona, who has been given far more legal power than they should have. Tresona is waging a full-scale war using copyright laws as they stand now, and until these laws are brought up-to-date or rebalanced to limit Tresona's reach (which I can guarantee will not happen for some time, if at all), pricing for copyrighted content will be higher than some are comfortable with. This phenomenon is even more noticeable with smaller markets like marching band, because there is less money involved, and a larger portion of it must go toward copyright purchasing. Also, Mr. Snyder is absolutely right about the fact that there is a culture of toxicity in all forms of social media, because there are people out there who feel emboldened to say things that they would not normally say or that they know are unnecessarily rude because they know there is no accountability for them, since their identity is concealed behind a username. That's why I made the decision to stop hiding my identity and put my real name on here. I own everything I say online, because anything I would say on here I would say in person, as well. And I'm not saying that everyone or even most people on this forum fall into this category, but there are definitely a good deal of people I would classify as "bad actors". I wonder... If you sat a bunch of fans and parents down in front of a 60-inch 4K TV and showed them video files of marching bands from a flash drive for an hour, and then switched over to a DVD with its reduced resolution, how many of them would praise the DVD for its "superior quality"... P.S.- If you don't read anything else in this post, then please read this: Just because someone disagrees with your opinion, that does not mean they are saying you can't have an opinion. It's okay to disagree, because opinions are neither right nor wrong. Some simply choose to back up their opinions with evidence supporting it. Why? Because some believe in the axiom that knowledge is power. You don't have to believe that, but they do. People so things and approach things differently, and that's okay. You can be different than someone else and still be a valued member of the community.
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