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  1. 15 points
    I find it interesting that just last week Morehead was going to be a great show with loads of talent yet somehow now it’s became the show someone goes to if they need a distinguished rating ! Just because bourbon didn’t win now it’s incorrect judging let’s be honest the three top bands in this contest were great bands period ! MC deserved to win they are good Harrison had a great run in finals as well as bourbon but why take away anything from Harrison because they came out on top of Bourbon ? Just seems like someone looking for excuses...my band was tied lower than we thought we should be but overall the top three bands were just as that the top three bands of the day !
  2. 12 points
    I really don't understand where this criticism of Lafayette is coming from. Since Lafayette is good again they should be competing with the best BOA bands to prove it? They choose to do easy shows to win a trophy in their backyard which says they're good? If you take a historical look at Lafayette, they have always competed in BOA during their strongest years and typically made a great showing. You really don't see a drop in their results until the start of this decade (I have a little theory as to why the quality in our best 5A bands dropped at the beginning of this decade but that's for another topic). Don't quote me on this but I believe this was because they were going through some financial troubles during their "weaker" years. I think they also had what I would describe as an identity crisis in their show design (think of 14' and 15'). So with both of these things happening I think that's why they took a step back from BOA. So now that they've won state the past two years we suddenly expect them to run out into BOA. Because to prove that they're worthy of the governor's cup you have to be able to hang with some of the best BOA bands? I can understand that we would want some of our best to represent KY on the national stage but I think some of us are being too quick to judge Lafayette. The last time they participated in BOA they didn't make finals. By choosing the TN regional it'll be later in the season, which means they'll most likely have their full show on the field for feedback, which will give them a better grasp of how prepared they are to head back into BOA. Yes they could have gone to Louisville but early season is always risky when half your show is on the field. Especially at events as competitive as BOA and if you're going into a circuit you haven't competed with in years. I would bet that they would have done the Dayton regional had it not been moved to Muncie which meant TN was their next best option. So no, I don't see the TN regional as the "easy" choice because they want to get as high a placement as possible. I see it as the "we're going to make sure we're prepared for this and get our best feedback possible" choice. Signed, A North Hardin alumni who likes cheering on our fellow KY bands. . . . . Take some notes nohohos
  3. 11 points
    I think that really is an insult to the bands that did out perform Bourbon and won. Let’s not minimize their accomplishment by bashing the contest.
  4. 10 points
    A Washington County: 121 points (HR: 11 first place votes) (16 App.) LW: 2 Hancock County: 104 points (HR: 4 first place votes) (16 App.) LW: 4 Cumberland County: 94 points (HR: 1 first place vote) (16 App.) LW: 1 Williamstown: 83 points (HR: 1 second place vote) (15 App.) LW: 3 Mayfield: 44 points (HR: 1 second place vote) (15 App.) LW: 7 Owensboro Catholic: 40 points (HR: 2 fourth place votes) (13 App.) LW: 6 Campbellsville: 38 points (HR: 3 fifth place votes) (15 App.) LW: 5 Harlan: 33 points (HR: 1 fourth place vote) (10 App.) LW: 8 Others receiving points: Nicholas County (7), Danville (6), Metcalfe County (6) AA Murray: 126 points (HR: 14 first place votes) (16 App.) LW: 1 Beechwood: 114 points (HR: 2 first place votes) (16 App.) LW: 2 Russell Independent: 96 points (HR: 16 third place votes) (16 App.) LW: 3 Mercer County: 75 points (HR: 12 fourth place votes) (16 App.) LW: 4 Hart County: 58 points (HR: 3 fourth place votes) (16 App.) LW: 5 Trigg County: 38 points (HR: 3 fifth place votes) (15 App.) LW: 6 Casey County: 31 points (HR: 1 fourth place vote) (10 App.) LW: 7 Russellville: 17 points (HR: 2 sixth place votes) (10 App.) LW: 8 Others receiving points: Nelson County (9), Paducah Tilghman (6), Warren East (4), Caldwell County (2) AAA Estill County: 124 points (HR: 12 first place votes) (16 App.) LW: 1 Russell County: 111 points (HR: 4 first place votes) (16 App.) LW: 2 Adair County: 97 points (HR: 5 second place votes) (16 App.) LW: 3 Glasgow: 77 points (HR: 3 third place votes) (16 App.) LW: 4 Taylor County: 58 points (HR: 5 fourth place votes) (16 App.) LW: 5 LaRue County: 49 points (HR: 5 fifth place votes) (15 App.) LW: 6 Garrard County: 37 points (HR: 2 fifth place votes) (15 App.) LW: 7 John Hardin: 10 points (HR: 1 seventh place vote) (9 App.) LW: 8 Others receiving points: Pulaski County (7), Boyle County (3), Allen County-Scottsville (2), Calloway County (1) AAAA Anderson County: 118 points (HR: 9 first place votes) (16 App.) LW: 1 Bourbon County: 113 points (HR: 4 first place votes) (16 App.) LW: 2 Harrison County: 96 points (HR: 3 first place votes) (16 App.) LW: 3 South Laurel: 80 points (HR: 1 second place vote) (16 App.) LW: 4 Madisonville: 62 points (HR: 2 fourth place votes) (16 App.) LW: 5 Hopkinsville: 52 points (HR: 3 fourth place votes) (16 App.) LW: 6 Bullitt East: 24 points (HR: 3 sixth place votes) (13 App.) LW: 7 Owensboro: 12 points (HR: 4 seventh place votes) (8 App.) LW: NR Others Receiving points: Barren County (12), Madison Southern (5), South Warren (2) AAAAA Lafayette: 123 points (HR: 11 first place votes) (16 App.) LW: 1 Madison Central: 117 points (HR: 5 first place votes) (16 App.) LW: 2 Larry A. Ryle: 91 points (HR: 12 third place votes) (16 App.) LW: 3 Eastern: 71 points (HR: 3 third place votes) (15 App.) LW: 4 Campbell County: 61 points (HR: 2 fourth place votes) (16 App.) LW: 5 George Rogers Clark: 58 points (HR: 1 third place vote) (16 App.) LW: 6 Daviess County: 28 points (HR: 1 sixth place vote) (14 App.) LW: 7 Paul Laurence Dunbar: 19 points (HR: 1 fifth place vote) (12 App.) LW: 8 Others receiving points: Henderson County (7), McCracken County (1) Overall Lafayette: 230 points (HR: 9 first place votes) (16 App.) LW: 1 Madison Central: 224 points (HR: 5 first place votes) (16 App.) LW: 2 Anderson County: 193 points (HR: 1 first place vote) (16 App.) LW: 4 Bourbon County: 192 points (HR: 1 first place vote) (16 App.) LW: 3 Estill County: 162 points (HR: 2 third place votes) (16 App.) LW: 6 Larry A. Ryle: 138 points (HR: 1 third place vote) (15 App.) LW: 5 Harrison County: 132 points (HR: 3 third place votes) (15 App.) LW: 7 Russell County: 120 points (HR: 4 fifth place votes) (16 App.) LW: 8 Murray: 113 points (HR: 2 sixth place votes) (16 App.) LW: 9 Eastern: 94 points (HR: 2 sixth place votes) (14 App.) LW: 10 Adair County: 79 points (HR: 2 seventh place votes) (14 App.) LW: 11 South Laurel: 66 points (HR: 1 eighth place vote) (14 App.) LW: 13 Beechwood: 57 points (HR: 2 eighth place votes) (13 App.) LW: 12 Campbell County: 42 points (HR: 1 fifth place vote) (12 App.) LW: 14 Madisonville: 21 points (HR: 1 eleventh place vote) (10 App.) LW: 15 Others receiving points: Glasgow (21), George Rogers Clark (16), Hopkinsville (14), Taylor County (5), Cumberland County (1)
  5. 10 points
    First off the bat. 5A is not less competitive because of the class change. It is less competitive because North Hardin, Central Hardin, and Henry Clay decided to dip. So we will not be blaming the changes for that one. Secondly. I do think 1A and 2A are still somewhat competitive. Is it as high of a caliber? No. but there is still a huge question mark in those classes as to who will be in finals outside of Washington/Williamstown and Murray /Beechwood and still having a leading top 2 is no different than the old 1A, 2A, 3A, and 5A. And the bands in 1A and 2A competing for 3rd and 4th are close in caliber. Third off. 6 finalist would be more than ENOUGH for 3A and 4A. You can’t take every band and I’m sorry that’s such a hard hard pill for us to swallow. Every state has classifications, nationals has classifications and bands in every circuit have bands advance when bands better than them do not. (Look at BOA’s class advancement system for semis. Many 1A bands get a Saturday performance above 2A, 3A, and 4A bands far better than them). This new system makes the competition more fair in each class. We have seen a beechwood band of almost 100 in 1A against bands such as hazard. Adair pushed down to 2A where the closest band only ever got to 3 points behind them on finals night. Bands bigger than a 5A finalist dominate 3A all in the old system and now we cry because these bands are forced to compete with their own caliber while the bands below them have a fighting chance to compete with theirs. Fourthly. This new change I believe has pushed many bands to go harder and be better. I’m seeing many many bands in 1A and 2A push and improve tremendously because they have a shot. And the bands in the other classes stay at the same caliber or better to secure their spot. It really isn’t a bad system right now. My opinion might change come the next couple of years but right now I’m not hating it.
  6. 9 points
    Ryle: I really enjoyed this show overall! I truly believe this band has grown so much since Joe Craig took over. The band has a really nice full sound, and overall the musical book is really arranged nicely for the ensemble! Visually the show develops nicely, but I will say with the uniforms, it does take a lot of time to develop into the new colors that are created for the sleeves. Overall I think more color to represent the thought process could add a lot more flavor to the show! My placement: 3rd Actual Placement 2nd Southwestern: Although these past two years have been life changing for this ensemble, I believe last year was a much more energetic and exciting program for this group. The direction of this show both musically and visually seems lost over the course of the show. Woodwinds are very strong throughout the program, but the Brass seems to have some moments of greatness, yet a lot of moments of struggle. I’m interested in what focus they are trying to get to come across. Hopefully the band cleans well over the next few weeks! The uniforms are really nice for the group! They pop really well! My placement: 7th Actual Placment: 6th Williamstown: I love the uniforms for this group! Overall the band makes pretty decent sounds, but they are missing a lot of wonderful opportunities to really enhance the musical book. The percussion being so far back doesn’t really do the ensemble any favors, a lot of balance issues from front to back. Visually this whole show should be designed around the props, but they never move. I personally don’t understand what they are doing with the concept because it’s only led off of voice-overs and they aren’t getting too much impact from what they are trying to do visually! I think the concept is great, but they are missing out on so much! I hope they figure it all out! The West A groups could run them out of finals! My placement 5th Actual Placement 5th Campbellsville: I love this group! They are continuing to get better each year! Opener starts strong and really has energy, but the momentum went away after that! You can tell they are still cleaning and making changes, and if they gather that opener focus they will make finals! My placement 6th Actual Placment 7th South Laurel: lots of content, lots of great performers and the ENERGY is there from start to finish! I honestly have no complaints about this show, but I know they still have things to work on from an overall conceptual side of things. My placement: 2nd Actual Placement: 3rd Madison Southern: Intersting show with decent music, and a great percussion and guard! Biggest concern was pacing and thought process of drill, it didn’t seem to do them any favors in a lot of spots! My placement: 4th Actual Placment 4th Estill Co: Just WOW! Power, energy, loads of content and demand!! In my mind they are the best band in 3A! My only wish would be that they picked a different color for the performance tops at the end just to keep that strong and bold feeling from the uniform! My Placment 1st by 5 points Actual Placment 1st Madison Central: Big Band, Big Sound, Massive Guard, Thought of the show is neat, but still has a lot of defining to get done. Stronger Individuals are going to be key in the process for the band! Overall a great contest with great bands!!
  7. 9 points
    Difficult finals lineup for sure. A lot of this could be very close. I have PLD and Russell Independent getting into Finals here but Woodford would be close. Also pretty high on Madison Southern but I think they've earned the hype this year. And of course, having Madison Central win over Bourbon is dependent what happens two weeks before. However, even if Bourbon does beat Madison Central at Morehead, I'd still say Madison Central wins here. Two weeks between competitions is time to clean the drill and music, and this Madison Central band can be deadly at the end of a season after they've got everything cleaned up well. Will be close nonetheless, but giving it to Madison Central. 1A Paris Powell County Lloyd Memorial 2A Beechwood Russell Independent Mercer County Owen County Lewis County 3A Taylor County Garrard County Pulaski County East Jessamine Highlands West Jessamine 4A Bourbon County Madison Southern Woodford County 5A Madison Central Larry A. Ryle Paul Laurence Dunbar Finals Madison Central Bourbon County Larry A. Ryle Taylor County Beechwood Madison Southern Garrard County Pulaski County Paul Laurence Dunbar Russell Independent
  8. 8 points
    I made this account only because I have been watching this forum for years and yet have not seen such childish behavior before. 18 out of 19 of your posts have been about Hopkinsville. No one will deny that Hoptown has a great program, but you're being ridiculous. As much as you call the other person a hater, it is so obvious you're a homer. Being a fan is cool, but you asked the person to make a rebuttal and once they did, you respond like this. Think about how you're behaving.
  9. 8 points
    As of now: 1. Russell county 2. Estill county 3. Glasgow 4. Adair/Larue
  10. 7 points
    In all seriousness, can we finally put to rest the narrative that Lafayette can’t compete nationally? The stereotypes people attach to that program are so ignorant and unwarranted (Box drill, easy shows, doesn’t have a good sound, etc.) I’m glad they shut people up tonight. Lafayette and Estill made a statement for our state. Congrats to both.
  11. 7 points
    Lafayette and Dobyns-Bennett were next to each other during the retreat and awards tonight. As soon as the bands were dismissed, the DB kids went straight over to Lafayette and it looked like a lot of hugs and words of congratulations were exchanged. Very classy!!! Great crowd there at the competition too - overall, very supportive of everyone’s performances.
  12. 7 points
    Yikes...how did bourbon sweep...it should have been at the most 2 captions to 1...this was my first time seeing them live, and I was a bit surprised at the results. I personally think that MC and bourbon should have been swapped, with MC winning music and overall. I also think Beechwood and Ryle should have been swapped. Now, both bourbon and MC shows were executed very well! This is all imo so judge me as you want.
  13. 7 points
    Strategy! Why is everyone so bent on making an issue of this. It’s really not a bad thing to not reveal every aspect of a show until State regardless of your band affiliation. Whether u want to call it building the show or I call it revealing aspects of the show it’s all the same. We don’t see the entire package until State most times. “Holding back” may have been the wrong phrase to use but it’s not really that big of a deal.
  14. 7 points
    Dont hate me: 1.anderson Andersons showing at barren really sparked a needed energy in this years show 2. Bourbon All though harrison beat them by a decent margin I think they have more room to grow and based on previous years they will "crescendo" to the end of the season 3. Harrison They will be closer to bourbon than bourbon to anderson 4.south laurel
  15. 7 points
    I didn't realize stating my personal opinion was going down a rabbit hole. We can agree to disagree with another. I absolutely think kmea goes with clean over anything else. Am I wrong? Could be...it's just my opinion. Let's not pretend that most of the disagreement we all have over certain bands don't come down to who is cleaner in the end. It is always the main point made. As you continue to tell people not to take things so ppersonally your response to this is exactly why most of us have these conversations in private. I state I don't like the style of Band A and prefer Band B for certain reasons and do it pretty respectfully and I'm told i believe it bc it fits my narrative. Maybe it does idk but if difficulty and demand were given the weight your narrative is in your head then I still stand by the wrong band won last year. It only seems to be a problem when people don't prefer certain groups. I'm cool with that. Down votes don't phase me. I'm perfectly content being what might be a minority of people who respect the talent of say Bourbon Lafayette Adair but think they have grown a bit boring of watching the same tired box drill, lunge, squat big note. Give me the dirt of MC, NH, Estill Harrison any day. Respectfully.
  16. 7 points
    MC got 7th place in Vis Perf ind. That shouldn't happen. Yes, there's alot of feet to clean but...
  17. 7 points
    R u freaking serious? Sympathy points? Unbelievable. U just won a trophy for jacka$$ of the day!
  18. 6 points
    10. Dunbar 9. Woodford 8. Pulaski 7. Garrard 6. Russell 5. Taylor 4. Beechwood 3. Ryle RGC. Madison Central GC. Bourbon Best Overall Music: Bourbon Best Visual: Bourbon Best Effect: Bourbon Good job to both Garrard and Russell! Very impressed with both groups. 4A just got a lot more competitive.....more so now than ever.
  19. 6 points
    Taylor County! Way to go! This was my first time seeing your show, and all I have to say is fantastic job and what a way to remind the crowd that you do not have to have a large band to have a moving show. Again, excellent job!
  20. 6 points
    Here's the week 4 rankings! We had 16 judges as usual, but there are two different judges on the panel this week due to an issue that we had. I hope you all enjoy, and I am very sorry that these are being posted so late. It was not a very good week for me and school work needed to be completed before I could get to these. I look forward to next week! A Cumberland County: 120 points (HR: 10 first place votes) (16 App.) LW: 2 Washington County: 116 points (HR: 5 first place votes) (16 App.) LW: 1 Williamstown: 85 points (HR: 1 second place vote) (15 App.) LW: 3 Hancock County: 83 points (HR: 1 first place vote) (16 App.) LW: 6 Campbellsville: 42 points (HR: 5 fifth place votes) (14 App.) LW: 5 Owensboro Catholic: 38 points (HR: 4 fifth place votes) (13 App.) LW: 7 Mayfield: 37 points (HR: 3 fourth place votes) (13 App.) LW: 4 Harlan: 30 points (HR: 2 fourth place votes) (10 App.) LW: NR Others receiving points: Nicholas County (9), Danville (8), Metcalfe County (8) AA Murray: 127 points (HR: 15 first place votes) (16 App.) LW: 1 Beechwood: 113 points (HR: 1 first place vote) (16 App.) LW: 2 Russell Independent: 91 points (HR: 15 third place votes) (16 App.) LW: 3 Mercer County: 75 points (HR: 1 third place vote) (16 App.) LW: 4 Hart County: 57 points (HR: 4 fourth place votes) (16 App.) LW: 5 Trigg County: 43 points (HR: 1 fourth place vote) (16 App.) LW: 6 Casey County: 28 points (HR: 1 fourth place vote) (10 App.) LW: 8 Russellville: 16 points (HR: 4 sixth place votes) (8 App.) LW: 7 Others receiving points: Nelson County (12), Warren East (5), Paducah Tilghman (4), Henry County (3), Caldwell County (2) AAA Estill County: 119 points (HR: 9 first place votes) (16 App.) LW: 2 Russell County: 115 points (HR: 6 first place votes) (16 App.) LW: 1 Adair County: 96 points (HR: 1 first place vote) (16 App.) LW: 3 Glasgow: 79 points (HR: 1 second place vote) (16 App.) LW: 4 Taylor County: 55 points (HR: 4 fourth place votes) (16 App.) LW: 6 LaRue County: 52 points (HR: 1 fourth place vote) (15 App.) LW: 5 Garrard County: 38 points (HR: 2 fifth place votes) (15 App.) LW: 7 John Hardin: 11 points (HR: 1 seventh place vote) (10 App.) LW: 8 Others receiving points: Pulaski County (6), Boyle County (3), Allen County-Scottsville (2) AAAA Anderson County: 117 points (HR: 8 first place votes) (16 App.) LW: 2 Bourbon County: 115 points (HR: 6 first place votes) (16 App.) LW: 1 Harrison County: 96 points (HR: 2 first place votes) (16 App.) LW: 3 South Laurel: 78 points (HR: 1 second place vote) (16 App.) LW: 4 Madisonville: 65 points (HR: 4 fourth place votes) (16 App.) LW: 6 Hopkinsville: 51 points (HR: 3 fourth place votes) (16 App.) LW: 5 Bullitt East: 27 points (HR: 3 sixth place votes) (14 App.) LW: 7 Barren County: 15 points (HR: 2 sixth place votes) (9 App.) LW: 8 Others Receiving points: Owensboro (8), South Warren (2), Grant County (1), Madison Southern (1) AAAAA Lafayette: 123 points (HR: 11 first place votes) (16 App.) LW: 1 Madison Central: 117 points (HR: 5 first place votes) (16 App.) LW: 2 Larry A. Ryle: 93 points (HR: 14 third place votes) (16 App.) LW: 3 Eastern: 65 points (HR: 1 third place vote) (15 App.) LW: 5 Campbell County: 62 points (HR: 2 fourth place votes) (16 App.) LW: 4 George Rogers Clark: 59 points (HR: 1 third place vote) (16 App.) LW: 6 Daviess County: 27 points (HR: 1 sixth place vote) (14 App.) LW: 7 Paul Laurence Dunbar: 21 points (HR: 1 fifth place vote) (12 App.) LW: 8 Others receiving points: Henderson County (7), McCracken County (2) Overall Lafayette: 233 points (HR: 11 first place votes) (16 App.) LW: 1 Madison Central: 223 points (HR: 4 first place votes) (16 App.) LW: 2 Bourbon County: 193 points (HR: 1 second place vote) (16 App.) LW: 3 Anderson County: 192 points (HR: 1 first place vote) (16 App.) LW: 4 Larry A. Ryle: 154 points (HR: 2 third place votes) (15 App.) LW: 5 Estill County: 134 points (HR: 2 fourth place votes) (16 App.) LW: 7 Harrison County: 131 points (HR: 2 third place votes) (14 App.) LW: 12 Russell County: 128 points (HR: 1 fourth place vote) (16 App.) LW: 6 Murray: 110 points (HR: 1 sixth place vote) (15 App.) LW: 10 Eastern: 79 points (HR: 1 fifth place vote) (12 App.) LW: 14 Adair County: 68 points (HR: 1 sixth place vote) (13 App.) LW: 9 Beechwood: 62 points (HR: 2 eighth place votes) (15 App.) LW: 11 South Laurel: 59 points (HR: 1 ninth place vote) (13 App.) LW: 13 Campbell County: 58 points (HR: 2 fifth place votes) (12 App.) LW: 8 Madisonville: 28 points (HR: 2 eleventh place votes) (9 App.) LW: NR Others receiving points: George Rogers Clark (24), Glasgow (21), Hopkinsville (9), LaRue County (5), Paul Laurence Dunbar (4), Taylor County (3), Cumberland County (2)
  21. 6 points
    I debated whether chiming in on this one or not, but decided to do so. I'll try to keep it "constructive". I'm not a fan of the new classification system for several reasons. First, the changes have immediately made 1A, 2A and 5A drastically less competitive, virtually giving a small select group of bands in those classes a cake walk to finals. Secondly, it immediately made class 3A and 4A significantly harder. Third, due to the changes, there are less than 12 bands state wide in class 5A, and as such those bands do not have to compete in a quarter finals competition to earn the right to advance to semifinals. This is not fair to the other classes who have to compete to earn the right to advance. Fourth, when and if the change comes about regarding 6 bands in each class advancing to finals instead of the current 4, that means that half the bands in class 5A will advance in finals. Again, not fair to the other band classes that have a tremendous amount of competition in comparison. Fifth, if they were going to change the classification system, they should have also make the change to include 6 bands in each class going into finals at the same time. Because for classes 3A and 4A, due to the extreme competition levels, there is a greater chance in not making the cut. And last but certainly not least, I think it is totally unfair that the "committee" that made the decisions regarding implementing the classification changes are the only ones that know the details of how it is calculated. Last I heard, they are the only ones that know the exact formula/calculations on how the classifications are assigned, whereas the remainder of the band directors in the state are not given the exact details of the calculations (I assume this is still the case unless something has changed). This opens up the opportunity for those band directors on the committee to "game" the system regarding which class their band falls into by limiting their band size if it's close to the cut off. Not saying that is happening, but I just don't think it's right for a handful of participating band directors to have that info and it be kept from the majority of the rest. I also wonder what the reasoning was for those on the committee to suggest/implement these changes. Was it truly to try to make things better, or were there hidden motives? When I heard about the ones that were pushing for these changes, it made me wonder if the motives were to help make the path to finals a bit easier for those pushing for the changes. I really struggle to see any real benefit as a whole to Kentucky Marching band programs with all these changes. Matter of fact, I see many negatives.
  22. 6 points
    I agree at this time this is pretty accurate and because of this I have found my main issue with kmea. It's not the class changes, it's not blaming that for reasons of lack of literal growth in numbers in certain classes bc they're afraid of being put into a class they feel they can't compete etc. It's the stifling of the growth we allow bands to have with actual styles. Don't get me wrong, clean is great, clean is important but for me, and it's just my opinion, clean focus has become monotonous and boring. I've grown bored of watching bands be clean as heck bc they march the same drill year in and year out bc that's the game and they do it well. So again, it's absolutely no disrespect to bands who do this bc I get it and I respect that they too are just players in the game but for me I want to see what else can you do? For me, last year NH was the winner. We're they as clean? Nope. Was the show more complex, exciting etc and show their growth? Hands down. Again, jmo and it's an issue in at least 3 of our classes I find.
  23. 6 points
  24. 6 points
    Madison Central vs Bourbon will be fun to watch, but I think MC wins. I am also interested to see how GRC, Eastern, Campbell and PLD stack up against each other. I think Campbell is the best of those 4 though.
  25. 6 points
    1. Estill. Probably by a couple points (G) 2. Ryle 3.SouthLaurel 4. Southwestern (P if they are as good as last year in this caption) 5. Madison Southern 6. Williamstown 7. Campbellsville
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