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  1. tubadude62

    New KMEA Guidelines

    The answer to our failure to mitigate the virus isn't to continue to fail. Since as a country we have failed, a hard course correction is needed. Which, in this case, means no in-person schooling. How we've not adequately prepared for that reality is another topic. Since this scenario is what is needed, it's imperative that teachers prepare themselves and their students for what this looks like. We have to remember that a student's need for safety is the highest priority. After that comes their need for an education in music. Since safety is paramount, the vehicle for education must fit that reality. Marching band, no matter what form that takes, has always been a want. In Kentucky, more often than not, it even detracts from a student receiving a well-rounded music education. In no way can a want get in the way of a student's safety. If a teacher who has been given the latitude to make their own decision on this matter wishes to continue on in any format with marching band, they are making the choice to endanger every person under their charge. In the service of a want. At best, they are negligent in their duties. At worst, they care not for the lives of those around them. This is an opportunity for teachers to reimagine how music education is relevant to the student, school, and community. For the overwhelming majority of classrooms, the pandemic has shown that the large ensemble setting was already teetering on the edge of obsolescence. Exploring modes of teaching that more closely match the relaties of music making today, while still providing students with necessary fundamentals, will only benefit every stakeholder.
  2. tubadude62

    Grand Nationals

    There are a lot of factors to consider when making this comparison, which I will attempt to limit: How long have the Japanese students been playing their instruments before beginning to march? How well is their music schooling funded? What are the community expectations for music education? It's also important to debunk the thought that Japanese band programs in general are successful and high-caliber, full stop. I lived in Japan from early 2016 to late 2018, and in that time experienced that Japanese music programs are similar to American music programs in that many factors play into the quality of the programs. And, that their bands range from top-flight, to bottom-tier, and everything in between. The examples often provided to us at the elementary, middle, and high school levels are the cream of the crop, and are funded and supported accordingly.
  3. tubadude62

    External Music Opportunities

    There are a number of universities in the state that host honor bands throughout the year: https://finearts.uky.edu/ukbands/honors-wind-ensemble http://uoflbands.com/special-events/invitational-honor-band/ https://www.murraystate.edu/academics/CollegesDepartments/CollegeOfHumanitiesAndFineArts/Music/FestivalsWorkshops/index.aspx https://www.wku.edu/music/band_clinic.php https://ekubands.eku.edu/high-school-honors-band https://www.asbury.edu/academics/departments/music/all-star-band-clinic/ https://www.moreheadstate.edu/Caudill-College-of-Arts,-Humanities-and-Social-Sci/mtd/Music/Bands/Concert-Band-Clinic
  4. tubadude62

    All-State Results

    1. My understanding about this being a marching band message board was stated above. I've been associated with this board and boards before it since 2004. Before moving from Kentucky, I was involved with music education in the state in some form or fashion for 16 years. The lens through which this board and this state operates is clear and needs no explanation. 2. I don't think anyone is expecting a novel about this topic. It should be pointed out that there are lengthy opinions shared on this board about a very narrow segment of our state's band programs. I think it would be beneficial to the health of Kentucky bands if some effort was made to so much as acknowledge that more than just marching band exists. And, that there are groups and individuals who are doing well outside of that world.
  5. tubadude62

    All-State Results

    1. Recaps are made available to interested persons by band directors. My point: there's not as much interest in anything not marching-related. It's up to everyone to determine whether or not that's a good thing. 2. I'm not understanding the point here. Because an event happens with less frequency, people don't talk about it? 3. These threads prove my point. Proportionally, there's not anywhere near the discussion about non-marching aspects of Kentucky band programs. 4. Boiled down, it's my opinion that: There are barely a handful of programs in Kentucky that have the means to afford a well-rounded, comprehensive music experience to their students. Those who are a tier below that have the means to offer significant opportunities, but instead dump most available resources into marching band. I think the general discourse of these boards show that.
  6. tubadude62

    All-State Results

    Please argue the point. It's far too easy to resort to this.
  7. tubadude62

    All-State Results

    I don't like to make comparisons between two things, because apples and oranges, etc. I also understand that this is a marching band discussion board. However. It might take only a couple of hours on the day of a marching band show to see recaps posted to these boards. The subsequent praise and derision of entire programs and directors lasts until the next competition. In direct comparison, we can see on these boards the total lack of desire to recognize the individual efforts of students, private teachers, and directors for the work required to achieve this honor. Correlation is not causation, but I think I can infer that: if our peers, many of whom grew up in a program which experienced success on the field, are not offering support to this group of musicians, they themselves may not have received an appropriate amount of support in such an endeavor.
  8. tubadude62

    All-State Results

    Is there a pdf with a complete listing available?
  9. tubadude62

    Band directors

    I would suggest asking an administrator about that. And, to clarify, a person is hired as a coach entirely separate from their teaching contract. As such, how a person performs as a coach should never influence how they are evaluated in the classroom.
  10. tubadude62

    Band directors

    The band director is a teacher working toward or holding tenure. Should tenure be achieved, they have the right to due process regarding the state of their employment. The material taught is curricular. The football coach is contracted to coach an extra-curricular activity. They do not have the right to due process and can be fired without cause. Although sports in general have their merit, the practice field is unequivocally not the classroom. If an administrator thinks that their band director should be fired for cause, they should document the issues at hand and follow proper procedures. If an administrator elects not to gather evidence, they either have a better teacher than what they claim, or they're not a very good administrator. Regardless, a band director, who is a teacher and not a coach, should never be denied their due process once they have earned tenure.
  11. tubadude62

    Band directors

    This question presumes a lot of things about a band program: 1. That the purpose of a band program is to bring home trophies. 2. That the primary vehicle for teaching music is the marching band segment of the program. 3. That the majority of resources available to a band program should go to the marching band. 4. That competitive marching band as experienced in Kentucky is something that works for every program in the state. I would argue that none of these presumptions apply to any band program in the state. 1. There's nothing in the Kentucky teaching standards for music which mentions that marching band must be taught. 2. Many would argue that the concert band is the primary vehicle for teaching music in a band class. In my opinion, a strong band program exposes its students to as wide a variety of musical genres as possible while still providing a quality experience. Sometimes a program can stand up multiple ensembles, sometimes just one. 3. Marching bands in Kentucky often spend disproportionate amounts of time and money when compared with the rest of the band program. Dependent on socioeconomic factors, this often results in a marching band which punches above its weight, with every other aspect of the band program suffering. If speaking honestly, we could count on less than one hand the number of Kentucky bands that field a marching band AND a concert band AND a jazz band AND small ensembles AND provide solo opportunities from which students have a quality experience. Beyond that, there is not even a significant minority which provide a quality marching and concert band experience. 4. There are a number of factors, which I will try to limit here, that a band director should consider before deciding that the Kentucky marching band experience is right for their students: Do we have the money? Will my students and parents commit to the time and effort that a quality experience takes? Will my administration back me up in words and acts? Do I work in a school system where not only is sharing students beneficial to the students, but also critical to the survival of my program? If a band director hasn't considered, at bare minimum, these critical questions, I don't think they are being good stewards of their students and their program. If they have, a good administrator will recognize this and not fire them for doing what is right for their students, whether or not marching band is part of that equation. Edit: Spelling
  12. tubadude62

    New System

    Not gonna claim that I have the answer, because I don't know what's best for every program.
  13. tubadude62

    New System

    Opinion here, so take it for what it's worth. The issue here, in no way, is how bands are classified. It's not the training or quality of judges. It's that the marching band activity in Kentucky has evolved in a way that encourages an "all or nothing" mentality amongst educators, administrators, and fans of the activity. Those very few programs that have the means to fund a generally comprehensive experience for their students are also pumping large amounts of money into their marching band components, incorporating uniform changes, grandiose props, etc. Since marching band is a highly visible component of a band program, administrators at other schools will wonder why their band director isn't able to keep up with the Joneses. That director has to choose between throwing what little resources they have into the marching component, or balance out their monies and risk not only the possibility of losing their job, not only possibly being ran out of town by their boosters, but also, least of which, ridicule from the activity's fan base. There may be a number of people that claim to appreciate the plight of the average and below-average Kentucky band program. However, high-money programs that continue to perpetuate that their brand of marching band can be done throughout the state continue to perpetuate the lie. The administrator who is upset with their band director who does not produce in this highly specific and specialized segment of a band program is willfully ignorant of the needs of their school's band program. The Sunday Morning Commenter that bravely states their obvious fix for a band program, the SMBC, and the general state of affairs of marching band in Kentucky, plays their part in dismantling the activity they claim to love.
  14. tubadude62

    Another Program goes non-competitive

    I can see that point. In that sense, hire a marching band "coach" and a Music teacher. Get the most qualified for each position. I'm sorry, but this must be my last post on the matter, as I've asked what constitutes "good" or "best" in every possible way I know. I fully understand that I may not have always answered a question clearly. However, when asked point-blank on a matter, I may not have been agreeable, but I have been clear.
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