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  1. 15 points
    I find it interesting that just last week Morehead was going to be a great show with loads of talent yet somehow now it’s became the show someone goes to if they need a distinguished rating ! Just because bourbon didn’t win now it’s incorrect judging let’s be honest the three top bands in this contest were great bands period ! MC deserved to win they are good Harrison had a great run in finals as well as bourbon but why take away anything from Harrison because they came out on top of Bourbon ? Just seems like someone looking for excuses...my band was tied lower than we thought we should be but overall the top three bands were just as that the top three bands of the day !
  2. 12 points
    I really don't understand where this criticism of Lafayette is coming from. Since Lafayette is good again they should be competing with the best BOA bands to prove it? They choose to do easy shows to win a trophy in their backyard which says they're good? If you take a historical look at Lafayette, they have always competed in BOA during their strongest years and typically made a great showing. You really don't see a drop in their results until the start of this decade (I have a little theory as to why the quality in our best 5A bands dropped at the beginning of this decade but that's for another topic). Don't quote me on this but I believe this was because they were going through some financial troubles during their "weaker" years. I think they also had what I would describe as an identity crisis in their show design (think of 14' and 15'). So with both of these things happening I think that's why they took a step back from BOA. So now that they've won state the past two years we suddenly expect them to run out into BOA. Because to prove that they're worthy of the governor's cup you have to be able to hang with some of the best BOA bands? I can understand that we would want some of our best to represent KY on the national stage but I think some of us are being too quick to judge Lafayette. The last time they participated in BOA they didn't make finals. By choosing the TN regional it'll be later in the season, which means they'll most likely have their full show on the field for feedback, which will give them a better grasp of how prepared they are to head back into BOA. Yes they could have gone to Louisville but early season is always risky when half your show is on the field. Especially at events as competitive as BOA and if you're going into a circuit you haven't competed with in years. I would bet that they would have done the Dayton regional had it not been moved to Muncie which meant TN was their next best option. So no, I don't see the TN regional as the "easy" choice because they want to get as high a placement as possible. I see it as the "we're going to make sure we're prepared for this and get our best feedback possible" choice. Signed, A North Hardin alumni who likes cheering on our fellow KY bands. . . . . Take some notes nohohos
  3. 11 points
    I think that really is an insult to the bands that did out perform Bourbon and won. Let’s not minimize their accomplishment by bashing the contest.
  4. 11 points
    I want to say thank you to Paradise for putting this together for all of us to partake In and see all of our opinions averaged out. I’m sure it takes tons of time and effort and dedication. Now to the ingrate who downvoted the rankings. I have seen some really upsetting post around these rankings for a couple weeks, with downvotes on the rankings themselves and comments on how stupid they are and so on. This is merely other people’s predictions combined into a collective ranking. The placements might not be how you see it. It’s not really how I see it right now either, but it gives us a good idea of what others might be seeing. It’s for fun, it is not the end all be all. Keep it positive and appreciate the hard work it probably takes to do this. Think a little
  5. 11 points
    Grant County got 5th place last year. And to be honest I don’t even remember what South warren or Barren County placed. This is also based off of previous years as well and they used to always be a top spot in their class. No real reason to be rude about it, it’s just an opinion not state finals.
  6. 11 points
    Give me PulaskiMom, or give me death.
  7. 10 points
    First off the bat. 5A is not less competitive because of the class change. It is less competitive because North Hardin, Central Hardin, and Henry Clay decided to dip. So we will not be blaming the changes for that one. Secondly. I do think 1A and 2A are still somewhat competitive. Is it as high of a caliber? No. but there is still a huge question mark in those classes as to who will be in finals outside of Washington/Williamstown and Murray /Beechwood and still having a leading top 2 is no different than the old 1A, 2A, 3A, and 5A. And the bands in 1A and 2A competing for 3rd and 4th are close in caliber. Third off. 6 finalist would be more than ENOUGH for 3A and 4A. You can’t take every band and I’m sorry that’s such a hard hard pill for us to swallow. Every state has classifications, nationals has classifications and bands in every circuit have bands advance when bands better than them do not. (Look at BOA’s class advancement system for semis. Many 1A bands get a Saturday performance above 2A, 3A, and 4A bands far better than them). This new system makes the competition more fair in each class. We have seen a beechwood band of almost 100 in 1A against bands such as hazard. Adair pushed down to 2A where the closest band only ever got to 3 points behind them on finals night. Bands bigger than a 5A finalist dominate 3A all in the old system and now we cry because these bands are forced to compete with their own caliber while the bands below them have a fighting chance to compete with theirs. Fourthly. This new change I believe has pushed many bands to go harder and be better. I’m seeing many many bands in 1A and 2A push and improve tremendously because they have a shot. And the bands in the other classes stay at the same caliber or better to secure their spot. It really isn’t a bad system right now. My opinion might change come the next couple of years but right now I’m not hating it.
  8. 10 points
  9. 10 points
    I look at this classification and I do not see much difference between the previous classification. To me it only helped a small amount of bands. 4A and 5A look like a nightmare if you want to build a program in a larger school. 4A prelims looks like it'll be the most competitive show of the whole season followed by 5A. I don't think this is for the better at first glance. However I could say the same in 2005 when the school size classification came out. 1A-3A is top heavy. The 12th place band in 4A could make finals in the in 1A-3A. I also think if you advocate for something, at least put your money where your mouth is and not bail. It takes a lack of integrity to do that.
  10. 10 points
    I get annoyed with all the secrecy. It's marching band, not international espionage. Geez!
  11. 9 points
    Ryle: I really enjoyed this show overall! I truly believe this band has grown so much since Joe Craig took over. The band has a really nice full sound, and overall the musical book is really arranged nicely for the ensemble! Visually the show develops nicely, but I will say with the uniforms, it does take a lot of time to develop into the new colors that are created for the sleeves. Overall I think more color to represent the thought process could add a lot more flavor to the show! My placement: 3rd Actual Placement 2nd Southwestern: Although these past two years have been life changing for this ensemble, I believe last year was a much more energetic and exciting program for this group. The direction of this show both musically and visually seems lost over the course of the show. Woodwinds are very strong throughout the program, but the Brass seems to have some moments of greatness, yet a lot of moments of struggle. I’m interested in what focus they are trying to get to come across. Hopefully the band cleans well over the next few weeks! The uniforms are really nice for the group! They pop really well! My placement: 7th Actual Placment: 6th Williamstown: I love the uniforms for this group! Overall the band makes pretty decent sounds, but they are missing a lot of wonderful opportunities to really enhance the musical book. The percussion being so far back doesn’t really do the ensemble any favors, a lot of balance issues from front to back. Visually this whole show should be designed around the props, but they never move. I personally don’t understand what they are doing with the concept because it’s only led off of voice-overs and they aren’t getting too much impact from what they are trying to do visually! I think the concept is great, but they are missing out on so much! I hope they figure it all out! The West A groups could run them out of finals! My placement 5th Actual Placement 5th Campbellsville: I love this group! They are continuing to get better each year! Opener starts strong and really has energy, but the momentum went away after that! You can tell they are still cleaning and making changes, and if they gather that opener focus they will make finals! My placement 6th Actual Placment 7th South Laurel: lots of content, lots of great performers and the ENERGY is there from start to finish! I honestly have no complaints about this show, but I know they still have things to work on from an overall conceptual side of things. My placement: 2nd Actual Placement: 3rd Madison Southern: Intersting show with decent music, and a great percussion and guard! Biggest concern was pacing and thought process of drill, it didn’t seem to do them any favors in a lot of spots! My placement: 4th Actual Placment 4th Estill Co: Just WOW! Power, energy, loads of content and demand!! In my mind they are the best band in 3A! My only wish would be that they picked a different color for the performance tops at the end just to keep that strong and bold feeling from the uniform! My Placment 1st by 5 points Actual Placment 1st Madison Central: Big Band, Big Sound, Massive Guard, Thought of the show is neat, but still has a lot of defining to get done. Stronger Individuals are going to be key in the process for the band! Overall a great contest with great bands!!
  12. 9 points
    Hey everyone! I am so sorry these are being posted so late. This week has been one of the busiest and emotionally straining that I have had in my college career and I really appreciate the patience. Having the opportunity to oversee these has always been a privilege and I am excited to continue to do this for all of us. Moving forward, The date for judges to submit rankings will be Tuesday at 6 p.m. This should give everyone time to look over the recaps on kyband.com and curate their set of rankings. This will also allow me to work on them on my free day, Wednesday, so that I can hopefully get these out to you all much sooner than I have been this year. Also, I am sorry that the columns are not perfectly even. It looks beautiful in Word and then on here it all goes askew. A Washington County: 124 points (HR: 13 first place votes) (16 App.) LW: 1 Cumberland County: 112 points (HR: 3 first place votes) (16 App.) LW: 2 Williamstown: 85 points (HR: 2 second place votes) (16 App.) LW: 3 Mayfield: 57 points (HR: 1 second place vote) (14 App.) LW: 4 Campbellsville: 52 points (HR: 2 fourth place votes) (15 App.) LW: 5 Owensboro Catholic: 45 points (HR: 1 second place vote) (11 App.) LW: 6 Danville: 39 points (HR: 4 fourth place votes) (13 App.) LW: 7 Hancock County: 28 points (HR: 2 third place votes) (6 App.) LW: NR Others receiving points: Nicholas County (19), Metcalfe County (12), Powell County (1), Harlan (1), Paris (1) AA Murray: 127 points (HR: 15 first place votes) (16 App.) LW: 1 Beechwood: 112 points (HR: 1 first place vote) (16 App.) LW: 2 Russell Independent: 86 points (HR: 1 second place vote) (16 App.) LW: 5 Mercer County: 77 points (HR: 1 third place vote) (16 App.) LW: 3 Hart County: 67 points (HR: 3 third place votes) (16 App.) LW: 4 Trigg County: 42 points (HR: 4 fifth place votes) (14 App.) LW: 6 Casey County: 21 points (HR: 2 fifth place votes) (8 App.) LW: 7 Caldwell County: 14 points (HR: 6 seventh place votes) (8 App.) LW: 8 Others receiving points: Russellville (12), Nelson County (10), Marion County (4), Henry County (2), Lewis County (1), Paducah Tilghman (1) AAA Russell County: 114 points (HR: 8 first place votes) (16 App.) LW: 1 Adair County: 112 points (HR: 6 first place votes) (16 App.) LW: 2 Estill County: 107 points (HR: 2 first place votes) (16 App.) LW: 3 Taylor County: 68 points (HR: 8 fourth place votes) (16 App.) LW: 4 LaRue County: 57 points (HR: 1 second place vote) (15 App.) LW: 6 Garrard County: 47 points (HR: 1 fourth place vote) (16 App.) LW: 5 Glasgow: 41 points (HR: 2 fourth place votes) (15 App.) LW: 7 John Hardin: 19 points (HR: 2 sixth place votes) (12 App.) LW: 8 Others receiving points: Boyle County (4), Wayne County (4), Pulaski County (3) AAAA Bourbon County: 124 points (HR: 13 first place votes) (16 App.) LW: 1 Anderson County: 112 points (HR: 3 first place votes) (16 App.) LW: 2 Harrison County: 84 points (HR: 2 second place votes) (16 App.) LW: 3 South Laurel: 78 points (HR: 2 second place votes) (16 App.) LW: 5 Madisonville: 53 points (HR: 1 third place vote) (15 App.) LW: 4 Hopkinsville: 47 points (HR: 1 third place vote) (13 App.) LW: 7 Bullitt East: 35 points (HR: 2 fourth place votes) (13 App.) LW: 6 Grant County: 22 points (HR: 1 fourth place vote) (12 App.) LW: 8 Others Receiving points: Barren County (11), Owensboro (7), Madison Southern (2), South Warren (1) AAAAA Lafayette: 123 points (HR: 5 first place votes) (16 App.) LW: 2 Madison Central: 117 points (HR: 11 first place votes) (16 App.) LW: 1 Larry A. Ryle: 93 points (HR: 13 third place votes) (16 App.) LW: 3 Campbell County: 68 points (HR: 2 third place votes) (16 App.) LW: 6 Eastern: 67 points (HR: 1 third place vote) (16 App.) LW: 4 George Rogers Clark: 41 points (HR: 2 fourth place votes) (12 App.) LW: 8 Paul Laurence Dunbar: 28 points (HR: 4 fifth place votes) (12 App.) LW: 5 Daviess County: 23 points (HR: 8 seventh place votes) (15 App.) LW: 7 Others receiving points: Henderson County (13), McCracken County (3)
  13. 9 points
    Difficult finals lineup for sure. A lot of this could be very close. I have PLD and Russell Independent getting into Finals here but Woodford would be close. Also pretty high on Madison Southern but I think they've earned the hype this year. And of course, having Madison Central win over Bourbon is dependent what happens two weeks before. However, even if Bourbon does beat Madison Central at Morehead, I'd still say Madison Central wins here. Two weeks between competitions is time to clean the drill and music, and this Madison Central band can be deadly at the end of a season after they've got everything cleaned up well. Will be close nonetheless, but giving it to Madison Central. 1A Paris Powell County Lloyd Memorial 2A Beechwood Russell Independent Mercer County Owen County Lewis County 3A Taylor County Garrard County Pulaski County East Jessamine Highlands West Jessamine 4A Bourbon County Madison Southern Woodford County 5A Madison Central Larry A. Ryle Paul Laurence Dunbar Finals Madison Central Bourbon County Larry A. Ryle Taylor County Beechwood Madison Southern Garrard County Pulaski County Paul Laurence Dunbar Russell Independent
  14. 9 points
    I somewhat understand your point, but tonight is really not a great example of small bands struggling to compete against larger bands, given that Beechwood got RGC.
  15. 9 points
    A Washington County: 123 points (HR: 12 first place votes) (16 App.) LW: 1 Cumberland County: 112 points (HR: 4 first place votes) (16 App.) LW: 2 Williamstown: 87 points (HR: 2 second place votes) (15 App.) LW: 3 Mayfield: 57 points (HR: 1 second place vote) (13 App.) LW: 4 Campbellsville: 56 points (HR: 3 fourth place votes) (15 App.) LW: 5 Owensboro Catholic: 45 points (HR: 1 second place vote) (12 App.) LW: 7 Danville: 43 points (HR: 5 fourth place votes) (14 App.) LW: 6 Nicholas County: 20 points (HR: 1 sixth place vote) (11 App.) LW: 8 Others receiving points: Hancock County (15), Metcalfe County (10), Somerset (6), Crittenden County (1), Paris (1) AA Murray: 127 points (HR: 15 first place votes) (16 App.) LW: 1 Beechwood: 113 points (HR: 1 first place vote) (16 App.) LW: 2 Mercer County: 83 points (HR: 8 third place votes) (16 App.) LW: 4 Hart County: 78 points (HR: 7 third place votes) (16 App.) LW: 3 Russell Independent: 53 points (HR: 1 third place vote) (14 App.) LW: 5 Trigg County: 40 points (HR: 2 fourth place votes) (12 App.) LW: 6 Casey County: 28 points (HR: 1 fourth place vote) (10 App.) LW: 7 Caldwell County: 17 points (HR: 2 sixth place votes) (10 App.) LW: NR Others receiving points: Russellville (17), Nelson County (11), Henry County (3), Marion County (3), Lewis County (2), Paducah Tilghman (1) AAA Russell County: 119 points (HR: 9 first place votes) (16 App.) LW: 1 Adair County: 114 points (HR: 6 first place votes) (16 App.) LW: 2 Estill County: 95 points (HR: 4 second place votes) (16 App.) LW: 3 Taylor County: 80 points (HR: 1 first place vote) (16 App.) LW: 4 Garrard County: 47 points (HR: 1 fourth place vote) (14 App.) LW: 5 LaRue County: 35 points (HR: 1 second place vote) (14 App.) LW: 7 Glasgow: 35 points (HR: 1 fourth place vote) (14 App.) LW: 6 John Hardin: 31 points (HR: 2 fifth place votes) (13 App.) LW: 8 Others receiving points: Boyle County (9), Pulaski County (6), Calloway County 5 AAAA Bourbon County: 124 points (HR: 13 first place votes) (16 App.) LW: 1 Anderson County: 110 points (HR: 3 first place votes) (16 App.) LW: 2 Harrison County: 83 points (HR: 1 second place vote) (16 App.) LW: 3 Madisonville: 74 points (HR: 2 second place votes) (16 App.) LW: 5 South Laurel: 66 points (HR: 1 second place vote) (16 App.) LW: 6 Bullitt East: 43 points (HR: 2 fourth place votes) (14 App.) LW: 4 Hopkinsville: 42 points (HR: 1 second place vote) (14 App.) LW: 7 Grant County: 20 points (HR: 1 fourth place vote) (12 App.) LW: 8 Others Receiving points: Owensboro (7), Barren County (6), South Warren (1) AAAAA Madison Central: 121 points (HR: 8 first place votes) (12 App.) LW: 1 Lafayette: 119 points (HR: 4 first place votes) (12 App.) LW: 2 Larry A. Ryle: 83 points (HR: 5 second place votes) (12 App.) LW: 3 Eastern: 73 points (HR: 2 third place votes) (11 App.) LW: 4 Paul Laurence Dunbar: 66 points (HR: 2 fourth place votes) (11 App.) LW: 5 Campbell County: 60 points (HR: 3 fourth place votes) (11 App.) LW: 6 Daviess County: 25 points (HR: 1 fourth place vote) (11 App.) LW: 7 George Rogers Clark: 12 points (HR: 2 fifth place votes) (9 App.) LW: NR Others receiving points: Henderson County (10), McCracken County (5), Meade County Overall Madison Central: 230 points (HR: 8 first place votes) (16 App.) LW: 1 Lafayette: 228 points (HR: 6 first place votes) (16 App.) LW: 2 Bourbon County: 208 points (HR: 2 first place votes) (16 App.) LW: 3 Anderson County: 175 points (HR: 3 third place votes) (16 App.) LW: 4 Russell County: 153 points (HR: 3 fourth place votes) (16 App.) LW: 5 Adair County: 133 points (HR: 2 fourth place votes) (15 App.) LW: 6 Larry A. Ryle: 129 points (HR: 4 sixth place votes) (16 App.) LW: 8 Eastern: 104 points (HR: 4 fifth place votes) (14 App.) LW: 7 Paul Laurence Dunbar: 95 points (HR: 1 third place vote) (15 App.) LW: 9 Murray: 90 points (HR: 1 fifth place vote) (13 App.) LW: 11 Campbell County: 71 points (HR: 1 fifth place vote) (12 App.) LW: 14 Harrison County: 70 points (HR: 1 fourth place vote) (13 App.) LW: 13 Estill County: 67 points (HR: 1 seventh place vote) (13 App.) LW: 10 Madisonville: 50 points (HR: 1 fifth place vote) (10 App.) LW: NR South Laurel: 38 points (HR: 2 ninth place votes) (13 App.) LW: NR Others receiving points: Taylor County (27), Hopkinsville (16), Bullitt East (14), Beechwood (10), Daviess County (4), Washington County (4), George Rogers Clark (2), Owensboro (1), Glasgow (1)
  16. 9 points
    Remember last year when Russell Co performed at the pre-season exhibition and everybody lost their marbles because they thought the message of their show was being petty about placing 2nd? Remember last year when nobody thought that PLD would make it back into finals but they finsihed over 5th place by 2.75 points? Remember in 2017 when Anderson Co went to their first competition (or it may have been pre-season exhibition, I honestly can't remember) and they pretty much had less show on the field than everyone else and performed the whole thing with the met on? Then by the end of the season ended up winning every single judge in state finals? Remember in 2016 when North Hardin lost to Central Hardin at their first competition, but by 5A semi-finals they beat central by 4.7 points. They also won semi-finals and ended up being the only 5A band to finish in the top 2 across semis and finals. Remember in 2015 when everyone thought PLD was going to barely make it into finals at best but ended up winning music performance and overall music and was exactly 0.05 points behind 2nd place that year? And 0.25 points behind the state champion? Yall need to C H I L L ~ O U T. These are children performing a high school marching band show. If yall want to see the absolutely best performance from them then go see their last competition. They don't need to be absolutely flawless all year round. Especially the groups who are performing difficult shows. Have yall never seen a video of Marian Catholic before October like??????? In the wise words of the Couchmen Drum Corps founder: "It's just band"
  17. 8 points
    So, now that we've had our sneaky peek at the new class lists, many people are ticked about "bloodbaths". However, wasn't that kind of the point of the new system: to make classes more competitive rather than knowing a year in advance essentially which bands are going to win every year? Is it not a little more exciting to see more kids from more bands out on the field knowing that they truly are in the mix? Take Apollo, for example, at 30-ish members. They had zero opportunity to succeed in 5A. Now, they aren't exactly going to roll over the big boys and girls in 3A. But they do have an opportunity to succeed at some regular season contests. And success usually breeds more success, and increased student involvement. Which could lead to increasing band size/quality, etc. Or, maybe I'm missing the point, and this is the end of all things great and wonderful in KMEA marching...
  18. 8 points
    I made this account only because I have been watching this forum for years and yet have not seen such childish behavior before. 18 out of 19 of your posts have been about Hopkinsville. No one will deny that Hoptown has a great program, but you're being ridiculous. As much as you call the other person a hater, it is so obvious you're a homer. Being a fan is cool, but you asked the person to make a rebuttal and once they did, you respond like this. Think about how you're behaving.
  19. 8 points
    As of now: 1. Russell county 2. Estill county 3. Glasgow 4. Adair/Larue
  20. 8 points
    Lafayette - 77.05 Beechwod - 72.05 Milford - 71.75 Campbell - 71.75 Harrison - 71.05 GRC - 67.7 Washington - 62.95 Williamstown - 62.55 North Oldham - 62.45 Grant - 62.2
  21. 8 points
    Hello @colorguard10101 and welcome aboard. Freshly created an account and your first - and one and only - post is to bash a current director. I'm guessing the director at your school at that. Not a good look. Update - And within a couple minutes of posting, this gets a downvote.Seems @colorguard10101 was on here the same time I was. lol
  22. 8 points
  23. 8 points
    I imagine it encourages band growth more than burying mid-tier programs in over-saturated "strong" classes. I mean, it's been discussed amply in other threads. I stand firmly by the "success breeds success" module. Increased likelihood of relative success creates programs that people are proud to be a part of, and actively seek out. No one goes "man, I can't wait to be a part of blahtown high school band and consistently place lowly". Positive results and perceived competitiveness in and of themselves encourage band growth. For bands with struggling enrollment (which could be any of a million different reasons--lack of school and community support, poor performance, minimal funding or increasing band fees, concert band-focused programs, etc.), positive recognition can absolutely be the turning of the tides. I think people keep forgetting that the goal of KMEA isn't just to make competitive marching band more interesting for its spectators, it's to create a system that helps support all young musicians in every aspect of their musical development. If that means bands like Mercer get a chance at the limelight, to rebuild in a "weaker" class, and to increase year-round participation in musical education programs, then I'll gladly watch a few bands that aren't "finalist caliber". Hopefully their enrollment will go up because of it. I may be misconstruing what you're intention was, but it sounds to me like you're implying music educators will be purposefully excluding children from marching band so that they can be placed in certain classes, which I find horribly offensive. I hope I was misreading that. While some music educators may highly value winning during marching band season, I've yet to meet one who'd prioritize it over developing students in a meaningful way. Having been a student under Mercer's director (she was assistant director then, because I am ancient), I can tell you that creating a successful and thriving HOLISTIC program is where her priorities are at. A little divergent from the main point, and maybe the wrong thread to go into this discussion; but we-as spectators AND participants--really need to reevaluate what we think state semis and finals are, why they exists, and the culture around how we consume them: Is it to celebrate the "best of the best"? The "best of each class"? All of marching band's competitive spirit and student growth? Because while all of them have similarities, none of them are the same thing.
  24. 8 points
    One of my main issues with this freak show is that the proponents of this change aren’t even going to participate. It just amazes me at the total lack of ethics.
  25. 7 points
    Hi everyone! I'm so happy to see increased engagement for the rankings this week. I am extremely sorry that they took this long to be posted, but I am currently sharing them in a new post now. Moving forward, I am going to move the deadline for judges to Tuesday because I am free on Wednesdays and that will allow me to hopefully have more time to work on them for you all!
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